{"id":400,"date":"2008-02-28T05:20:13","date_gmt":"2008-02-28T13:20:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bodyabcs.com\/bwp\/2008\/02\/constitutionality-of-the-24-visit-limit-for-chiropractic-work-comp\/"},"modified":"2008-02-28T05:20:13","modified_gmt":"2008-02-28T13:20:13","slug":"constitutionality-of-the-24-visit-limit-for-chiropractic-work-comp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bodyabcs.com\/bwp\/2008\/02\/constitutionality-of-the-24-visit-limit-for-chiropractic-work-comp\/","title":{"rendered":"Constitutionality of the 24 visit limit for chiropractic work comp"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Around 4 years ago, chiropractors were shocked and surprised when the law was changed in California so that if you were injured at work, you could at most receive 24 visits to the chiropractor.<\/p>\n<p>It should not be a surprise (but it is) that someone is taking on this arbitrary limit in California courts system.<\/p>\n<p>I for one have had injuries that have literally taken me years to heal, and in a few cases decades. I have seen plenty of patients who take years or decades to fully improve from some severe injury. This can involve them needing literally hundreds of chiropractic visits to reach their maximum improvement.<\/p>\n<p>The way the law works now, is that if you are at work, fall of a crane, break your spine, and severely injure the discs and muscles, that when the bones have healed from the fractures and you go to the chiropractor, you will be limited to 24 visits, unless the insurance company decides to give you more visits, which in my experience is so rare that I personally have never seen it.<\/p>\n<p>The following is an exerpt from a letter written by Roger W. Calton who is an attorney in Orange County who I have known for many years.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><em><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\" color=\"black\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: black\"> The challenges in this case are very interesting.\u00c2\u00a0 The California Constitution  creates a complete system of workers compensation which is to include &#8220;full  provision for such medical, surgical, hospital and other remedial treatment as  is requisite to cure and relieve from the effects of such injury.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0 The  Legislature&#8217;s arbitrary 24 visit cap places, for the first time, a limit upon  care which otherwise would be necessary to cure and relieve the effects of the  industrial injury.\u00c2\u00a0 If the Legislature can place a 24 visit cap on chiropractic,  then could they lower the cap to 15 visits (as was the original proposal) or to  10, or to 5?\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span><\/font><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><em><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana\" color=\"black\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Verdana\" \/><\/font>\u00c2\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\" color=\"black\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: black\"><em>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Under the current  law, the <u>carrier<\/u> can authorize in excess of 24 visits.\u00c2\u00a0 But allowing the  <u>carrier<\/u> to make this determination does two things:\u00c2\u00a0 First, it creates a  decision maker with an immediate and substantial bias.\u00c2\u00a0 Secondly, it deprives  the Court of the right to make the determination of what care is necessary to  cure or relieve the effects of the industrial injury.\u00c2\u00a0<\/em><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">The full court documents from the filing are here if you want to read them:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bodyabcs.com\/Images\/2008\/february\/28\/ANSWER_TO_PETITION_FOR_WRIT_OF_REVIEW-FACUNDO.pdf\">Document 1<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bodyabcs.com\/Images\/2008\/february\/28\/FACUNDO-APPELLATE_REPLY_TO_ANSWER.pdf\">Document 2<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bodyabcs.com\/Images\/2008\/february\/28\/PETITION-FOR-WRIT-OF-REVIEW_FACUNDO.pdf\">Document 3<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">I have been told by Roger Calton that the attorney representing the injured worker in this case is a former justice of the California Supreme Court, and that there is a possibility that he might win.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">Chiropractic has lost some serious battles in the past, so I don&#8217;t want to promote any lost causes. This one though I have been told has some real possibility of winning.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">From a morality standpoint, I feel it is a slam dunk. If a bus driver is injured lifting a patrons bag into the hold of the bus, I really think the employer should cover whatever is needed to help them fully recover.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">If you feel like donating any money to help cover what will be significant legal costs, then I have been told you can make a check out to:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\" color=\"black\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: black\"><strong><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">Armand Arabian\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><\/div>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">and the check can be mailed to:<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana\" color=\"black\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Verdana\" \/><\/font><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\" color=\"black\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: black\" \/><\/font><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><\/div>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\" color=\"black\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: black\">York  McGavin<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><\/div>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\" color=\"black\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: black\">16821  Maiden Lane<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\" color=\"black\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: black\">Granada Hills, CA 91344<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">Legal note: As in all things I have made my own attempts using sources I trust to verify the above. I aint no attorney, and the above sure as heck is not legal advice. If you are interested in the above matter do your own research and check out the facts especially before donating any money.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">Here is the <a href=\" http:\/\/appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov \">courts website<\/a> so you can continue your research there.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Around 4 years ago, chiropractors were shocked and surprised when the law was changed in California so that if you were injured at work, you could at most receive 24 visits to the chiropractor. 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